1. Leveraging Local Advantage in Legal Marketing With Jon Robinson & Marc Rioux Ken Hardison 33:58

Welcome to episode 306 of Grow Your Law Firm, hosted by Ken Hardison. In this episode, Ken sits down with Jon Robinson and Marc Rioux, no-BS marketing technologists with over a decade of proven success in the legal industry. Jon and Marc have built tech-first teams that handle every aspect of law firm marketing. Their work is tracked through dashboards that measure what matters, connecting marketing results to intake and operations in platforms like Litify and SmartAdvocate. Their mission is clear and ethical: help law firms gain more clients, deliver better client experiences, and provide full-funnel visibility for owners. As co-hosts of the Jon & Marc Podcast and frequent conference speakers, they share what works—and what doesn’t—so firms can focus on out-executing their competition, not out-spending them. What to expect in this week’s episode:

  1. Omnipresent Branding in a Moving Market – Why firms must show up across channels as search fragments into AI, social, and local touchpoints – Practical ways to build memorable multi-touch awareness without out-spending competitors
  2. SEO+ for the AI Era – Keeping core SEO strong while adding credible brand mentions, list inclusions, and near-real-time iteration – How to make your content the source AI cites by injecting proprietary insights and local expertise
  3. Paid Media That Actually Converts – Maxing LSAs, defending brand terms, and when (not) to run non-brand PPC – Measuring full-funnel impact from click to signed case—not just “leads”
  4. Rebrands, Migrations & Reputation – Changing names/domains fast without losing equity—what to update and in what order – Turning reviews, PR, and community proof into durable advantage over PE-backed entrants
  5. Ops Alignment & Authentic Content – Connecting marketing to intake and case ops for higher close rates – Why real humans beat avatars for trust—and how to scale authentic content across channels

Resources: Website: jonandmarc.comLinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/jon-and-marc Facebook: facebook.com/profile.php?id=61578375167789 YouTube: youtube.com/@JonandMarc Additional Resources: https://www.pilmma.org/the-mastermind-effect https://www.pilmma.org/resources https://www.pilmma.org/mastermind AI for PI Expo: www.pilmma.org/ai-for-pi-expo

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Ken Hardison, is known as the “Millionaire Maker” for a reason- having helped lawyers across the country double, triple, or quadruple their law practices and income, he brings to law firm owners the insights, knowledge, and critical strategies of Legal Marketing and Management that can only be learned in the trenches of real law firm success.

With over 30 years of legal experience, Ken has personally grown and sold two seven-figure law firms and has shared his knowledge and experience with attorneys, helping them experience exponential growth, increased profits, and ethical market preeminence.

With a passion and deep understanding of both grassroots and cutting-edged online legal marketing strategies, Ken is committed to helping lawyers experience greater levels of financial success, freedom, and personal satisfaction- the kind that comes from building an ethical and exceptional law practice. Focusing on the practical and the proven, rather than the cerebral, Ken guides lawyers through the steps needed to build the law practice many lawyers have only dreamed possible.

Ken is the Founder of PILMMA, Personal Injury Lawyer Marketing and Management Association, dedicated to helping lawyers learn the critical strategies to success. As a trusted advisor, consultant, coach, and Mastermind mentor, Ken has coached lawyers to greater success time and time again.

PILMMA’s powerful live and virtual events, such as the ever-popular Law Firm Growth Super Summits and Internet Domination Boot Camps have helped hundreds of lawyers gain the insights and strategies they need to propel their firms forward to greater success and exponential results and to stay current on the latest legal management and marketing strategies, such as leveraging SEO, PPC, PPL, Social Media, etc.

Ken is the author of numerous best-selling books such as Systematic Marketing, Under Promise, Over Deliver, and his latest book, Powerful Online Legal Marketing. He’s known for his practical and engaging style of taking the complicated world of legal marketing and management and giving clarity and step-by-step guides that any lawyer can implement to experience real results, greater profits, transformational growth, and heightened success.